Did I like Rob Reiner? I never met him. I have no idea what kind of person he was. I met another Reiner once, great guy, very funny, didn’t look anything like Rob though so I doubt they were related. Also, they probably had different last names.
His career seems to have started with family connections, with father and grandfather in the business. Then he was famous as the character “Meathead” in “All in the Family.” He received a few writing credits in televion, but Rob Reiner’s best known films are as director.
I thought other directors who passed away recently were a little more significant. Robert Redford was instrumental in turning the Sundance Film Festival into an international phenomenon. He also produced films with meaning like Quiz Show. Probably the most underrated person in the independent film scene.
They had a link. They both worked with screenwriter William Goldman. Goldman wrote a few books about the business from a writer’s perspective, and he published his screenplays with interesting forwards. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid helped Redford cement his reputation as an actor, and not just a pretty face. And so, no surprise where we’ll start.
The Princess Bride
The Princess Bride is based on an eponymous book by William Goldman, full of dad jokes. (The jokes originated when Goldman was telling stories to his children, you can’t get more dad than that.)
An iconic moment in this film is when an assistant to the villain says, “you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” The meme has shortened that to, “You keep using that word, I don’t think you know what it means.” (Do you know which word he was refering to? Hint, it wasn’t eponymous.)
Then there is, “My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.”
And if you ever get sick of people rhyming, you might find fans of the film if you say, “Stop rhyming and I mean it.” To which your Andre the Giant will respond, “Anybody want a peanut?” (It works with the accent. Yes, it depends on how you pronounce peanut.)
William Goldman should get credit for those lines. We look at Goldman’s other films, and see that even in duds like Ghost and the Darkness, there are a few memorable lines. “We have an expression in prize fighting: ‘Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit’. Well my friend, you’ve just been hit. The getting up is up to you.” and “You build bridges, John. You have to go where the rivers are.”
So, why didn’t Ghost and the Darkness work? Maybe the director had more of a TV style. There seems to be a flaw in the structure of the work, perhaps something was lost in the editing or some of the film was spoiled along the way. Could Rob Reiner have saved it? I doubt it, but we’ll never know.
A few Good Men
“You want answers?”
“I want the Truth.”
“You can’t handle the truth!”
That is like, my generation’s favorite quote. Taken out of context, that scene seems much more sympathetic to the old colonel played by Jack Nicholson than Tom Cruise’s lawyer looking for justice. If you see the rest of the film, however, you see the truth about Nicholson’s character, the struggle of Cruise and his team to bring justice, and perhaps the political view of the filmmakers.
It’s a great film though, it flows from the acting, the writing, and perhaps the directing. It’s hard to say where the best lines came from, but I would say the actors carried this one. Sorkin and Reiner worked together in another memorable film, The American President.
The American President
Sorkin is a great writer of dialogue, but he doesn’t always pick the best character names. Michael J Fox plays a character here who gives false statistics (but the film doesn’t question his statistics) and many lines are very politically oriented. (It defends Clinton’s arial attacks in the middle east, and other parts of domestic and foriegn policy in a way that ruins the pace and breaks the fourth wall.)
One of the characters has an unfortunately name. That is played by Fox. The name doesn’t seem to fit him.
A. J. MacInerney: [in the Oval Office] The President doesn’t answer to you, Lewis!
Lewis Rothschild: Oh, yes he does, A.J. I’m a citizen, this is my President. And in this country it is not only permissible to question our leaders, it’s our responsibility!
How much better would that exchange have been if the characters had names that better suited their personality?
Here, I think Reiner probably helped Sorkin.
Fans of this film might remember a Saturday Night Live sketch where Bill Clinton reviewed the film. They might also be confusing it with Dave, a film by Ivan Reitman which many feel was superior.
The Bucket List
What about using Jack Nicholson without Aaron Sorkin? Then you get The Bucket List, a film about two old men talking about what they are going to do before the end of their lives.
Sentimental to the core, while pretending not to be, there is the point where Nicolson’s character says goodbye to his granddaughter.
“You once said you’re not everyone. Well, that’s true. You’re certainly not everyone, but everyone is everyone.”
You can look up the entire “find the joy in life” speech. It’s one of the best in post Hayes Code American cinema.
Okay, so Morgan Freeman gets some of the best lines in that film. But, doesn’t he always? I wonder if Freeman deserves some ghostwriting credit here, or maybe just knowing he’ll be involved inspires writers (and directors) to do their best work. Maybe he creates some magic on the set that brings out the best in everybody.
Still, I’m considering checking out more of Justin Zackman’s work if I can find it. Whoever is responsible for The Bucket List, it’s great writing.
Stand By Me
The film about kids walking across the raillines, kind of like the Goonies or the Breakfast Club, it helped define an eighties genre that seemed to die in the eighties.
I think The Goonies was one of the films that destroyed that genre.
Some quotes look like they could have come from an inferior film, like the Goonies:
“Hey, at least now we know when the next train was due.”
Funny, but it does take us up a level.
Teddy: This is my age! I’m in the prime of my youth, and I’ll only be young once!
Chris: Yeah, but you’re gonna be stupid for the rest of your life.
Still, I think other films were a little more innocent, a little less crude. Yes, we all know twelve year olds who swear and talk like that.
Reinman was a good director. Perhaps not the best, but he was still working. It’s a shame that his life ended that way.
Misery
Goldman was probably Reiner’s greatest screenwriter (although as I said before, I am still looking for more films by Zackman, who may well be underrated. And even if his other films weren’t hits, maybe the scripts were better than the end result, who knows. Okay, back to Reiner and Goldman.) Princess Bride was a great collaboration. And, they worked together again.
This time, you might say some of the best lines belong to a third party, the best selling author Stephen King. But, they could have been, let’s say, adapted and even possibly improved for the big screen.
“I know that, Mr. Man! They also called them serials. I’m not stupid ya know… Anyway, my favourite was Rocketman, and once it was a no breaks chapter. The bad guy stuck him in a car on a mountain road and knocked him out and welded the door shut and tore out the brakes and started him to his death, and he woke up and tried to steer and tried to get out but the car went off a cliff before he could escape! And it crashed and burned and I was so upset and excited, and the next week, you better believe I was first in line. And they always start with the end of the last week. And there was Rocketman, trying to get out, and here comes the cliff, and just before the car went off the cliff, he jumped free! And all the kids cheered! But I didn’t cheer. I stood right up and started shouting. This isn’t what happened last week! Have you all got amnesia? They just cheated us! This isn’t fair! HE DID’NT GET OUT OF THE COCK – A – DOODIE CAR!”
Reiner had been working with great writers since his acting days. Those long speeches, those monologues that were allegedly too long for cinema, still had place in his films.
Even if he wasn’t known for his writing, Reiner understood writing well enough to not mess up a great line, a great speech, or a great exchange. He kept good stories intact.
conclusion
If you want to learn from Reiner, one thing you can do is start by being an actor. Actors read scripts carefully, they understand what works and what doesn’t. And great actors know why things work, how they work, and know how to find the line that can look flat on paper to the untrained eye and breathe life into it.
I can’t think of any techniques that Reiner is known for. It is kind of an invisible directing style, some might say naturalistic. I never worked with him, but I can guess his philosophy. He didn’t leave his mark, he simply didn’t get in the way.